Comments on: Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

By: Smitty

Smitty — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:38:30 +0000

Terrific post! Informative. Honest. Forthright. Like your beers! I’m in Arizona and love every one of your beers that I’ve tried so far. Will be heading up to Klamath Falls for the weekend – any hard-to-find Deschutes products available in that area that I might not find in Arizona? I’ll be looking!

By: Ron Kuhnel

Ron Kuhnel — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:32 +0000

I am a fanatic beer geek and beer taster. I am rkuhnel on BeerAdvocate and Hayduke on Ratebeer. I am also Hayduke on The Beer in Me, a one year old start-up web site on craft beer where I serve sa the Review Moderator. I love your Experimental Hop Henge and picked up a bottle n Bend yesterday at Newport Market that I intend to trade to someone in the Midwest who loves your beers.

The night before I visited the brewpub. I went though all the Pub Exclusive Brews, some in samplers, and had to add seven of them to Ratebeer so I could rate them. Hope I got all the details right. I loved the TOPAZ IPA, and the Twin Pillars. Good work on both.

Ron

By: Doug Bastron

Doug Bastron — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:53:56 +0000

Hi,

Just wanted to comment on your Hop Henge IPA. I just sampled it at the Beachcomber in Florence, OR. I’m very impressed!!! What a fantastic IPA. Right up there with my favorites. I started my micro brew experience in Hopland , CA. Home of Red Tail Ale and the Mendocino Brewing Company. Which I believe was only the second micro pub in the country, and first in CA. Anyway, this is where I learned all about micro brews. At that time Red Tail Ale was a fantastic beer. No cold filtering and really alive. At first you could only get it in magnums. Sad to say it has changed a lot and no longer resembles the fantastic brew it once was. Such is the case with all there beers these days. But that was expected when they were bought out by United Brewers. The White Hawk IPA was another exceptional beer. I was three at the release party, and it was great to taste those first batches. With the ORIGINAL recipe. Oh well, that beer is now gone also.

So upon moving up to Oregon I was please to discover the micro brew world was alive and well in Oregon. Deschutes, Rogue, Terminal (gotta love that Terminal Gravity).

So, wanted to compliment you on Hop Henge. And I feel fortunate to be able to have it on tap at my local pub. The Beachcomber even has it to go in 22oz

This beer is so good it should be produced in six-paks and available all year!!!

Doug

By: Hopfentreader

Hopfentreader — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:32:36 +0000

As a probrewer it’s great to read your results of the process. As brewers what we calculate on paper to be and what the lab actually tells us can end up being very different things. Thanks for putting those educational numbers out there. Cool to see the increase in ibu’s when the krausen stayed contained. As well as the post filtration number’s. Always so interesting to see how each process downstream strips the precious and pricey hops away. Awesome blog. Visited your brewpub in Bend years ago when I was still a homebrewer with a twinkle in his eye. Thanks for making stellar beer! and congrats on the recent organic certification at the pub!

HopfenTreader

By: ethan

ethan — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:26:08 +0000

Love this information.

It sounds like, for batch #2, you estimated 243 IBU on paper, your lab measured 117, and then the external lab said the finished product was 87IBU. Does this mean that a full 20IBU “mellowed out” in the conditioning process?

What do you attribute the loss of bitterness to? AAU saturation in the liquid? Lack of alcohol to strip the hops of the acids effectively? Increased degredation speed because of some consequence of high saturation? The only reference I can find to this is Ray Daniels in Designing Great Beers talking about how high-IBU brews typically can’t be estimated as effectively.